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hottest stuff going on

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wherever it is and tonight is no

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about to call in 60 seconds or less his

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and the guy's for real and another thing

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become a patron and uh get into the

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archives have some fun

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we'll keep it coming so without any

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further ado let me get into what's going

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on with rick

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we're gonna give him a call here hey

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rick how you doing can you still hear us

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okay

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hey hey everyone what's up buddy hey

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it's good to be

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talking to you tonight i know that

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there's there's a lot going

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on in the area that we're probably going

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to be discussing

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and words i know like words kind of

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don't describe the passion that you have

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a lot of people talk about going up

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there and this that and the other thing

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i'll be honest when i'm up there i only

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see yourself and maybe a few others

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and you're there often in the hot spots

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so when you go up there

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what have you seen that keeps you going

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oh ryan uh

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i i'm addicted to the place first off

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from the first time i went out there we

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seeing lights and we would stay up out

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of halls

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well so the beginning we didn't even

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know where it was at we we just took

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gps coordinates and a map and we we

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and it was just like oh my gosh it's

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real so

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anyway we we ended up staying a ball

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hollow

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and we've that's where that's where we

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go it's bottle hollow

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i it will stay out all night and

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skywatch and i haven't seen any features

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but we've seen so many different lights

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things that we cannot explain that it's

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weird whether it is a man-made vehicle

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in the sky or not

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it's just nothing i've ever seen before

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and every time i go out i

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we experience something and

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that's why i go back i had a couple

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experiences

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in my counties i live in utah county

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which is probably 20

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and i've had experiences there and

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i've just been hooked and

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i've never seen a consistent up to the

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bottle hollow and seeing things in the

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sky that i

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that's why i go back because i'm never

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disappointed

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yeah i go with my wife a lot well

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and we would go out and the first night

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we were there

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we were sitting out on the dock at

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bottle hollow

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right by where the boats launched into

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the reservoir

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and it's dark outside and we're watching

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the sky and it's

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nothing going on well we look over and

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we see what we think of the airplane

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i'm pretty sure it's the airplane i'm

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thinking that's an airplane but it has a

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spotlight shining from the rear end of

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that the spotlight stops midair

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and i've never never seen that in my

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life i don't know

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if it's man-made probably is but i've

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never seen any

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financing do that well it curves and it

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ends up flying right

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it flies right over our head and it's

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got nothing but blue lights

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not blinking lights no red lights no

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green lights but a bunch of blue lights

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and i can't make out the shape of this

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thing when it flies over our head

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and my wife looks at me and says that's

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not an airplane

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and it made no noise and i just

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i i was dumbfounded and it

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we just watched it go off and never

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and we just looked at each other and

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that's about all what happened with that

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and i was like we got to keep coming so

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the next time we go out i'm sitting out

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there all night and

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i see some blinking lights and up

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toward looks like they're up by the

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stars they're blinking and

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they'll blink and then you won't see

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them and then they'll blink again

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and i'm waiting i'm i'm kind of trying

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to predict its direction

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in which this thing's flying and it

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should be about right here

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well it's not even next time it blinks

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it's nowhere even near

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way's way and i just blow it off and

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don't and and i don't think nothing of

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it that

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it's probably a satellite and i just

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well that was that night and the same

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night that's all i saw and i was like ah

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i'm kind of disappointed

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maybe i'm gonna see nothing cool again

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well six o'clock in the morning i wake

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up

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and i look out the window

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and i'm looking towards the ranch and

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there's a road from the campground that

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you can see

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it goes around the reservoir well i can

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tell it's still dark outside

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the sun hasn't come up yet and i can see

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this light and it's just one light

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and at first i'm like is that like a

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motorcycle headlight pointing at us

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well i get my binoculars out and i see

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the same light and then right next to i

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see the little red one

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smaller and they're both kind of bobbing

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well i can't get focused in to tell what

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they are

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and so i get out my field scope and

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i get it set up and it's wobbling and i

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get it and i find and then i got to find

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the light again and i focus and i get

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focused down by the time i do all this

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i'm on the

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you probably should have seen me i was

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on top of the car laying on the

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windshield with my feet on the hood i

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looked i probably look really

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good to the natives but anyways i'm

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watching it by the time i find it again

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there's eight lights and they're all

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equal distance apart and they're all

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kind of bobbing up and down slightly

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from each other

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and well i'm trying to get my wife out

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of the car

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and she don't want to get up so she

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don't even witness it she won't even get

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we've left we've left

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because she just get we'll get a heap of

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jeebies sometimes we'll leave it like

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two in the morning when we're planning

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on staying all weekend we've done that

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once and she got heeby jibby's when we

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left and

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it was kind of a weird night but anyways

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watching these eight lights i'm

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trying to get her up she won't get up

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all of a sudden they all start moving to

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i'm not sure what direction that is but

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i want to fit to the east

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they all start moving to the east i

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believe it is i get out there and i

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don't have my mountain so i

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kind of lose my directions out there but

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anyways they all start moving at the

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same time like a train

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and i had they're going left from my

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and then the front one stops and then

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they all collide into each other one at

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a time

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don't turn into one and and and then it

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and i've looked in that area in the

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and i've i can't figure out what that

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was that that was probably

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the one of the weirdest things we've

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seen out there besides my recent

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sighting but i can't it's

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that road is higher than the ground

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behind it in the maze

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but there's nothing out in between that

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and i don't there's power lines but

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there's no there's no roads out that way

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and nothing

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you could tell these lights were higher

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than the road you could see the

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silhouette of the

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where the road was and then you can see

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the lights above it so i know it wasn't

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it wasn't on the road it was above the

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i don't know what it was and that

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i'm still mystified about that one

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so we'll see fast forward

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a little bit and this last this last

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time we went out

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my wife wasn't with me i took a friend

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that's been itching to go out there he's

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never been out there and i thought i'd

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take him out there and

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i took him out and he he

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he didn't seem to like

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be as confused as i was like i don't i

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think he really was into it as much as i

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i'm sitting there and earlier i was

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telling you about this light that i seen

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blinking around

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and it should have been going in a

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straight line and but it was

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way off from where it should have been

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and i blew it off and didn't think

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nothing of it

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i see the same light and a strobe

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it would strobe in the sky and i counted

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five seconds in between it before it

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would blink again and when it would

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not blink and there was no lights you

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couldn't see it you would

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you wouldn't even know it was there and

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it would blink again every five seconds

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and it did this probably

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20 times ryan and then it just stopped

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and it was a there was no clouds in the

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sky all stars

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and um it just stopped blinking and

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never blinked again

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it never kept going i don't know where

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it went it just

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stopped i don't know i'm not saying it's

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aliens i'm not saying anything but

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it's kind of weird in my eyes

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it stops and i it never blinks again

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we have to have vehicles in the sky our

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planes have to have lights on them for a

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so there's not add on collisions you

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know you got your left and right and if

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it's coming out you're away from me

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all that stuff i'm not a pilot i don't

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know all the intrica

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all the details of that but i know we

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have to have lights even the military

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and we're not in a war zone you have to

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that was pretty trippy well not even a

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half hour later i'm sitting at the

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picnic table and this is right before

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i right after i got in trouble by the

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host of the camp

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because i was venturing off over to over

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to the docks well you're not supposed to

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leave

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the air your your camping area i guess

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they don't you're not even supposed to

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go around like

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once it's 10 o'clock you can go to store

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or whatever but

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just you know to go walk around the lake

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and stuff they don't i don't know why

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they don't want you to but you're not

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supposed to i don't want to mess with

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tribal so i

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i i try to obey but i didn't know i

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couldn't go over to the dogs

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where where there was less light and i

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could see this guy better well i'm

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sitting there and

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i see this shooting star what i think is

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a shooting star

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it's already low but it comes in like a

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shooting star and it has a tell and it

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slows down

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right above us and

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this tail starts catching up to it right

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and i don't know what distance it was

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but

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maybe two inches of tail from my point

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of view

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when the towel was about to catch up to

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whatever whatever was slowing down

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right before it caught up to it this

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thing

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zoomed off again and

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i don't know if you've seen anything

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like that

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but i'm just seeing weird stuff out

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there and that's why i keep going back

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and

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can't wait i want to spend the night at

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your place that's what i need to do

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does there does seem to be a lot of

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similarities to a lot of the sightings

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those spotlight

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sightings you were just discussing man

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those though that sounds like some

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really interesting information

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and honestly rick i see yourself and

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amanda right

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all the time up there i mean we it's

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it's

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in northeastern utah

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you're in a basin there's something

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about it um have you

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had any opportunities to speak with

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locals rick and if they told you any

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um i i've talked to one person that's

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local

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and she says she wasn't allowed to say

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much and she didn't really go into a lot

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of detail but

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she was at the reservoir she showed up

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in the morning and

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three feet she says of foam covering it

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there was like three feet of foam

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covering the lake

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well i find that really odd because if

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you ever heard of the this i won't say

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story because i don't like word story

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but

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shadow harbor yeah where the the ufo

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flew in and went into the water

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and the sailors and locals went out

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there thinking it was a plane

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that crashed and they got out and there

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was all this foam

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i think they said it was green she

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didn't describe what color the foam was

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at the reservoir

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but as soon as she told me the foam i i

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automatically

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saw up shocked because the foam from

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when it went into the water

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right as far as natives go i haven't

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really

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talked to any and

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i've i've i've talked to two of them at

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the gas stations but they don't want to

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they don't they act like they don't want

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to talk about

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skinwalkers and stuff so i try to

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respect them not really bother them

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about it they don't

378
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they they take the stuff a lot serious

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seriously than we do

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and i don't want to encroach so i kind

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of

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try to keep boundary with them

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yeah um

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yeah uh there was another time we were

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passing the ranch

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we were the road you turned to go the

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ranch and i was looking up

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and i seen a silver a silver

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spit in the sky like a silver little dog

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and

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looked at my wife ever

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to tell her about it i looked back and

393
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there was nothing i don't if

394
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maybe it was from the window i don't

395
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know but though i seen a silver

396
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dot a little tiny dot when i looked back

397
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it was gone so i don't even really bring

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that up much because

399
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that's nothing to i don't i can't really

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in my own head i can't just give it much

401
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valid

402
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much credit because it was you know what

403
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i mean i don't know if it was

404
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a reflection of maybe it was a

405
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reflection of window i try to keep an

406
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open mind about this kind of stuff

407
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but there's just some things that i

408
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can't i can't explain away to myself

409
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so it's an amazing place and

410
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uh i can't get enough of it i actually

411
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wanna i wanna get a couple people

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together and

413
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and copycat rich oliver story

414
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that's another really good story that

415
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that happens not on

416
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the main property but it's happened

417
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around in the uintah basin itself

418
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near the near there you know and that's

419
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my favorite

420
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i hate use this word story again but

421
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this

422
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the uh experience that they had and

423
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and how it ended for him it that just

424
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blows me away

425
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where they this guy has an abduction

426
00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:51,680
experience has has uh

427
00:15:55,910 --> 00:15:53,519
something stuffed up his nose a tracking

428
00:15:59,509 --> 00:15:55,920
device who knows what it is

429
00:16:03,350 --> 00:15:59,519
that he gets from his uh

430
00:16:06,389 --> 00:16:03,360
hypnotized session to redress his memory

431
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well then he gets brain cancer and

432
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passes away it's just

433
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it's it's a lot of odd things that don't

434
00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:14,639
add up that go together

435
00:16:18,550 --> 00:16:16,560
with this story i mean it goes together

436
00:16:23,189 --> 00:16:18,560
i'm not taking any credit but it

437
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brain cancer stuff my wife was healthy

438
00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:27,199
before we started going out and she

439
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ended up getting

440
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breast cancer it's one of those things

441
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that we don't what did

442
00:16:37,269 --> 00:16:35,360
she which if i never would have put

443
00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:37,279
taken her out there would she have

444
00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:39,839
had that so i have a hard time wanting

445
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:41,680
to take her out there

446
00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:43,600
things can happen to people there's

447
00:16:48,310 --> 00:16:45,040
stuff going on out there that

448
00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:48,320
can't harm people and i i'm thinking

449
00:16:52,949 --> 00:16:49,680
maybe my life could have been

450
00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:52,959
one of them you know but i'll continue

451
00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:55,759
to go out there and

452
00:16:59,590 --> 00:16:57,600
i need to get i don't have a video

453
00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:59,600
camera i'm not serious i'm not like

454
00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:01,680
a guy that makes my own paranormal

455
00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:04,000
appointment and has a radio show

456
00:17:10,949 --> 00:17:07,360
and blah blah blah blah blah

457
00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:10,959
so i got a few things to to watch the

458
00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:12,640
sky and stuff but i don't have all the

459
00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:13,199
equipment

460
00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:16,480
some of these guys that do this for a

461
00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:18,480
huge hobby it's a holiday morning but

462
00:17:22,549 --> 00:17:20,319
i'm i haven't got that far into where i

463
00:17:24,630 --> 00:17:22,559
got all this equipment for film [\h__\h]

464
00:17:26,309 --> 00:17:24,640
and all this stuff but i'm getting there

465
00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:26,319
and i will hopefully

466
00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:29,200
get something on footage even though but

467
00:17:31,029 --> 00:17:29,600
yeah

468
00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:31,039
to this day i haven't got nothing else

469
00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:32,960
but everything happens so fast

470
00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:36,000
if you don't have on a tripod ready and

471
00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:37,760
you could even have it on a tripod

472
00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:39,200
already right now and you might not

473
00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:40,559
catch it because

474
00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:42,160
some of this stuff happens pretty quick

475
00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:43,520
right and i don't know why i plan out

476
00:17:48,310 --> 00:17:45,200
that with nothing but blue lights

477
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that it has a spotlight

478
00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:50,080
on it why does it have it shine into the

479
00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:52,000
ground and then the spotlight don't just

480
00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:53,679
fade away it stops

481
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there's a you can tell it just stops

482
00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:58,960
from the spotlight this stops mid-air

483
00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:01,360
and it's just weird stuff and i don't

484
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:03,200
even know what that could even be

485
00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:09,029
but cool there's a rich story if you if

486
00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:10,000
if

487
00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:13,760
your listeners haven't heard this

488
00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:16,000
guy's experience out there they can

489
00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:17,520
really listen to it but what i was

490
00:18:21,029 --> 00:18:19,280
getting at i would like to

491
00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:21,039
duplicate it i know that sounds kind of

492
00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:23,039
weird and it might i've stopped at that

493
00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:24,799
place and already camped

494
00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:27,200
and then i'm i'm getting more closer to

495
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the details with

496
00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:31,039
to the to what time because i want to

497
00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:33,039
duplicate the same day at the same

498
00:18:40,789 --> 00:18:36,559
time there's only three people

499
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and response to edoc and his friends

500
00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:43,360
i don't want to pass away but i i do

501
00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:44,799
want to see if i can duplicate that

502
00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:47,200
because his story is so amazing that

503
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it's a it's an interesting story and and

504
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:54,559
yeah

505
00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:57,280
they it was basically um and i've heard

506
00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:58,559
that the number has something to do with

507
00:19:01,350 --> 00:19:00,160
it the powers of three six and nine

508
00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:01,360
depending on the groups and

509
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:04,080
the ritual but yeah it was a group of uh

510
00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:05,919
medical practitioners they were in the

511
00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:08,400
medical field they went out they

512
00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:10,720
had some animal blood they practiced a

513
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ritual

514
00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:14,799
and um i i know that you know there have

515
00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:15,679
been a lot of

516
00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:18,799
out-of-the-box rituals and summoning and

517
00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:20,480
invocations and stuff practiced in

518
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:21,520
different areas

519
00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:25,520
this particular time though there was a

520
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:28,080
pretty wild story that ensued afterwards

521
00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:29,679
do you kind of want to go into it rick

522
00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:30,960
and explain to the listeners what

523
00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:33,520
happened more or less

524
00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:36,240
yeah from the best of my knowledge i

525
00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:37,280
sure will they

526
00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:40,400
they so these three people uh

527
00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:43,840
two buddies and rich's wife or

528
00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:46,080
fiance i believe they went out there

529
00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:47,280
they were supposed to go with a big

530
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:49,200
group of people the other people

531
00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:52,480
freaked out backed out didn't make it

532
00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:55,840
and they i believe it

533
00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:58,240
me and my wife our first time there we

534
00:20:01,190 --> 00:19:59,440
finally stumbled upon it but i don't

535
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:01,200
think they did and they end up in this

536
00:20:05,490 --> 00:20:04,880
uh field upside the road

537
00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:05,500
this

538
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and they say they feel like they were

539
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dumbed down

540
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[Music]

541
00:20:26,549 --> 00:20:25,600
felt like they were given something to

542
00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:26,559
kind of just

543
00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,320
mellow them out and they felt stupid

544
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:30,559
like they were all giddy and

545
00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:33,200
they just felt like something entered

546
00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:34,480
their system i guess

547
00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:37,520
and they were having experiences and

548
00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:39,039
they didn't even think they were

549
00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:40,559
they just thought they were mundane that

550
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:43,280
was the word they used was mundane

551
00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:46,559
and they have they had the tents and

552
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:49,520
stuff set up

553
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:52,640
they were the coyote circles would be

554
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:53,600
nice

555
00:21:00,710 --> 00:20:58,000
that's not really but they started

556
00:21:02,149 --> 00:21:00,720
guy cough seemed like he was walking

557
00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:02,159
around and coughing every once in a

558
00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:04,320
while

559
00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:06,480
and i believe they even had an indian

560
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:07,679
they seen an indian man

561
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i believe and that that's part of the

562
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:11,919
story that has a has a

563
00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:14,880
a link to your story the indian that

564
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,640
picked you up that you picked up

565
00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:18,400
and gave a ride and woke up at bottle

566
00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:20,320
hollow mm-hmm i'm wondering if it's the

567
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:22,159
same guy actually

568
00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:24,159
but i i want to say they had in they've

569
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:25,520
seen the indian guy they're wearing a

570
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:27,039
final shirt or something but

571
00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:30,240
yep um they ended up

572
00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:32,080
uh they didn't know everything they had

573
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:33,360
to go into

574
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:36,480
yeah uh what's it called when you

575
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:39,520
you get put under by someone they

576
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:40,799
i can't think of the word off top of my

577
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:44,159
head sorry guys like hypnosis like a

578
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:44,799
regression

579
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,880
you get lost the memory that well yeah

580
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:48,559
yeah yeah so they

581
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,960
they had the one guy i think his name

582
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:52,000
was matt groan

583
00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:55,840
yeah well he he gets bit unlaid by some

584
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:58,159
creature he describes that in my brain i

585
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:59,600
picture as like a

586
00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:01,200
horseshoe crab that's what it sounds

587
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:03,360
like to me well it comes out

588
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:04,880
takes a chunk and i guess he even has

589
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,559
the wound i haven't seen

590
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:08,159
pictures but when you're there on this

591
00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:10,080
radio show he i guess that he even had

592
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:11,679
wound from where it bit him

593
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:14,799
yeah so there's proof right there well

594
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:17,600
uh rich oliver goes out to use the

595
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:19,760
bathroom a couple times and

596
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:22,400
he's out there you're urinating next to

597
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:24,000
his truck and he looks over and he sees

598
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:25,440
the outline of a human and says hey

599
00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:26,720
there's someone

600
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:28,559
the next thing you know he's getting

601
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,240
picked up by the head

602
00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:32,480
and he's dangling and he's like he says

603
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:34,000
i remember

604
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:36,320
uh feeling like i was too far off ground

605
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:37,760
because i remember kicking my leg and i

606
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,400
could

607
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,640
hit the hood of my truck so i knew it

608
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:42,559
wasn't too fast ground but he says i'm

609
00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:43,679
looking into this

610
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:47,520
this thing's eyes and it's nothing but

611
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:50,080
space it's like looking in the space of

612
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:50,720
fastness

613
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:54,480
dark black space and

614
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,840
he and he didn't remember this the next

615
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:59,039
morning when they woke up the next

616
00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:59,760
morning they had

617
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:02,080
sore throats they had headaches they

618
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:03,440
were ornery

619
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:05,840
they they were like really irritated

620
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:07,039
with each other for no reason

621
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,559
well they i might jump around

622
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,640
this story so exciting i just want to

623
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:14,400
keep talking about it but it's awesome

624
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:17,520
in the morning they blow up all their

625
00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:18,000
stuff

626
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:20,960
there's these black burns under their

627
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:22,880
tents

628
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:26,559
and it uh was a black spot under their

629
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:27,360
tent

630
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,640
but it wasn't under the whole town it

631
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,640
was just where they were laying but when

632
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:32,880
they first wake up

633
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:35,120
rich oliver's buddies like i'm sorry i

634
00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:36,159
couldn't stop him

635
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:40,799
probably thinking like what are you

636
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:42,000
talking about

637
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:43,279
he don't remember he didn't remember

638
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:45,200
half the stuff by the way

639
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:47,679
it came to him and then he had the

640
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:48,640
therapy where

641
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:50,880
they brought back his memory and they

642
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:51,679
all three had

643
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:54,559
similar experiences under hip hip

644
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:55,679
hypnotherapy

645
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:58,000
there was this word i was looking for

646
00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:59,840
and

647
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:01,279
how do you get three people to have the

648
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:09,350
and not have it be real well even before

649
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:11,279
and once the therapy they have two

650
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:12,880
humans that show up in in

651
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:16,400
in the in the radio show that they're on

652
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:17,520
talking about this

653
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:19,039
i don't even know the name of radio show

654
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:21,120
i just look up you guys want to hear it

655
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:22,559
just look up rich oliver

656
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,840
and i'll pop up and there will be a

657
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:26,000
drawing of this creature yeah

658
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:27,200
and it's one of the creatures that he's

659
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:28,720
seen that he drew he was an artist he

660
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:30,960
was a musician

661
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:35,440
and he uh where was that he

662
00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:38,159
oh man i forgot where i was at they this

663
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,919
is my first time

664
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:41,360
talking about all this stuff and then

665
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:42,960
having other people here i'm a little

666
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:43,679
nervous

667
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:52,390
uh where was i at they all three had the

668
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:53,200
same

669
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,480
experiment experience pretty much and

670
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,320
one of the things that he got out of it

671
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:00,400
is that he's supposed to bring people

672
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:02,960
keep bringing people to their keep

673
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:03,679
bringing them

674
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:06,720
like he's that was the message that they

675
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:08,400
wanted him to keep bringing people

676
00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:11,120
well one of the one of the memories is

677
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:11,919
these

678
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:14,240
two guys and then the radio show they

679
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:15,840
were talking they were saying they were

680
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:16,880
like in doughboy

681
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:20,159
outfits like like uh adult

682
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:23,840
doughboy sailor outfit well i heard from

683
00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:26,080
incredible people that that's really not

684
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:27,440
what they were learning and they were

685
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:33,350
toxic outfits that you would wear if you

686
00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:34,480
were to go into

687
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:37,600
uh you didn't have a whole head

688
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:41,440
body suit on like like if it was a big

689
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:42,799
disease or something

690
00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:45,760
i don't know like like like a biohazard

691
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:46,159
type

692
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,640
and has mass suits yeah man they were

693
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,080
wearing hazmat shoes

694
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:52,320
when i heard them this was someone that

695
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:53,600
got told by

696
00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:56,640
the son of one of them so sounds pretty

697
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:57,679
credible to me

698
00:26:01,830 --> 00:25:59,760
but anyway these two guys come up and

699
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:01,840
they're they they got with them

700
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,960
and to me in my i see it as a floating

701
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:06,480
blue orb a blue meaning

702
00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:07,840
just floating right between the two of

703
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:09,679
the guys that walks up to seems like to

704
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:10,320
me

705
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:11,679
i don't think they're carrying it they

706
00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:12,880
just make it sound like it's floating

707
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:13,760
along with

708
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,120
but they have a meeting with and that

709
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:18,960
ties into their answer

710
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:21,840
and it's i just want to go duplicate it

711
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:22,640
and see if

712
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:24,880
i can experience anything wilder than

713
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,310
i think there's something to it indian

714
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:32,240
that they've seen is

715
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:35,520
probably the same indian that nabbed you

716
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:37,120
and i think i've heard someone else say

717
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:39,039
they've seen an indian so it

718
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:41,120
kind of ties everything together that

719
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:43,440
way to me for for me

720
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:46,640
anyways but amazing and i'll shut up

721
00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:46,960
about

722
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:51,279
this story this guy's experience

723
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:53,360
it's a really good one it's my favorite

724
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:54,640
of all

725
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:57,120
out of gwen and terry's stories but they

726
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:59,039
they all got good stories but

727
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,880
that's my favorite one for some reason

728
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,240
yeah and

729
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:04,320
there's one other one that's pretty good

730
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:05,279
that i don't

731
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,799
i know you've heard of it i don't know

732
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:08,960
if your listeners have but

733
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:11,200
i don't know the guy's name but he's uh

734
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:13,120
neighbor to the ranch

735
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,320
and i don't know if i should say his

736
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,159
name i don't know how if he would be

737
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:17,919
happy about that or not even if i knew

738
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:21,039
it i think i do but i won't say it

739
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:24,880
he he's been there a long time

740
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:28,799
he owns property there and he he had a

741
00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:31,520
experience outside one night where and i

742
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:33,279
think it went on for a couple days

743
00:27:36,389 --> 00:27:35,360
a week or something before it all boiled

744
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:36,399
down to the

745
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:40,960
to what happened but this neighbor

746
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:44,480
was having problems with uh

747
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:47,600
i'll say i won't say a skinwalker

748
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:50,399
but in my i picture it in my brain again

749
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:50,720
as

750
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,520
a werewolf to me is what when i

751
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:55,039
visualized when i got told the story it

752
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:55,600
was

753
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:57,760
a werewolf you kept coming on his

754
00:28:02,149 --> 00:27:58,640
property

755
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:02,159
messing with his livestock and dogs

756
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:06,799
and he and this guy shot

757
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:10,799
shot in his backyard and um ran off

758
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:15,600
well the next morning this guy has

759
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:18,480
in black fbi cia i don't know who they

760
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:19,039
were

761
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:24,480
i don't know how they even knew what

762
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:25,679
happened

763
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:28,720
but they knew and they were

764
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:31,760
they'd i wanted not to do it again

765
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:34,000
and i i'd like to hear more of that if

766
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:36,080
you know more than i do

767
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,799
that's a really good story uh uh

768
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:40,320
experience from out there from another

769
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:41,360
credible person

770
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:44,559
just like terry my dad my grandpa was a

771
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:47,039
rancher and i never met a rancher that

772
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,000
was

773
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,200
full of [\h__\h] i don't know if i can

774
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:53,440
use that on your show but i've never met

775
00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:54,559
one that was

776
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,640
and they were always pretty good people

777
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:58,320
and they didn't blow

778
00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:59,440
you know they didn't blow their stories

779
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:01,360
out of proportion enough right

780
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:04,399
and my grandpa was a straight-up guy he

781
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:07,120
he i that's the feeling with terry terry

782
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,799
terry was there to

783
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:10,480
make a living for his wife and his

784
00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:13,039
family you he wasn't there to get famous

785
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:14,399
he's still not famous

786
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:16,000
i guess he is in a way but he's not

787
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:17,919
famous you know he never made a dollar

788
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:18,399
off it

789
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:20,080
and none of the people around the ramps

790
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:22,000
have had experiences and i'm sure every

791
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,919
every neighbor has had experiences that

792
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:26,240
hasn't even talked about it and that

793
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:27,039
would be really

794
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:28,960
interesting to get into more of that

795
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:30,240
yeah

796
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:33,600
you know because there's people that

797
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:35,120
have been there since the sermon

798
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:37,760
and then after the sherman and i bet

799
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:41,600
they got something i want to know

800
00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:44,399
yeah the just the just the the fact that

801
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:44,720
the

802
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:47,520
ball lightning is so prevalent you know

803
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,080
and

804
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,559
it looks so crazy in the area when you

805
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:52,080
have these storms come in

806
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,600
i know a lot of people say oh it's

807
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,840
scientifically explained but wait

808
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:58,000
until you see ball lightning in real

809
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:00,399
life it just looks out of this world you

810
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,000
know

811
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:05,200
yeah um

812
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:08,720
yeah it's that's crazy i i want to

813
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:11,039
can i talk about my experience some of

814
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,960
my sightings i had that

815
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:14,960
wasn't in the union basin that even got

816
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:17,600
me interested in

817
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:20,960
the unknown for sure for sure

818
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:23,120
i was like yeah it happened in utah

819
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:24,799
about two and a half hours away from

820
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:25,919
there

821
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:29,440
and you know utah was kind of

822
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:32,960
a hospital i think not not just the uh

823
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:34,320
basement but a little bit of everything

824
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:35,600
because we have

825
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:40,559
dogway which is pretty much area 52.

826
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,760
and we have sorry i'm outside and

827
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:45,440
my boss just drove by and there's people

828
00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:47,600
off sorry no worries anyway

829
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:51,279
uh there's we got area 52

830
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:54,960
we got we got all the radiation downpour

831
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:55,440
from

832
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:57,120
nevada that came this way and blew

833
00:31:03,029 --> 00:30:58,559
through

834
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,039
and we you tell us got quite a few ufo

835
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:05,120
events that have happened here not just

836
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:06,240
out there but

837
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:10,480
so i was uh in springville utah

838
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:14,399
where i was living and it was about

839
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:17,440
12 o'clock at night and i had just

840
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:19,120
finished eating dinner

841
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:20,799
and i was sitting out at my porch

842
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:22,159
smoking cigarette

843
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:24,480
on the porch in the doorway i was

844
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:25,840
leaning against door jamb

845
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:29,760
and i caught movement in my eye but

846
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:30,960
well first i just thought it was my

847
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:32,559
smoke and i didn't really pay attention

848
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:33,279
when i played

849
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:35,919
well i stopped seeing this movement so i

850
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:36,399
look

851
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:39,760
and it's flying it's right above me when

852
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:40,000
i

853
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:49,679
of two school buses

854
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:52,480
side by side and then two more side by

855
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:52,880
side

856
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:54,559
bumper to bumper with the other two just

857
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:56,320
one wing

858
00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:58,320
and then the other week so and a total

859
00:32:02,630 --> 00:31:59,679
of

860
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:02,640
eight school buses parked in a v-shape

861
00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:03,679
formation

862
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:06,399
it was about as big as it was well it

863
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:06,880
was

864
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,240
feet in the air

865
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,640
i know i was lower than the mountains

866
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:20,559
where what were behind me where i was

867
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:21,360
standing

868
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:24,080
it was already low and it flew i flew

869
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:25,440
over

870
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:26,799
i'm looking at the scene i'm like that's

871
00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:29,120
a big hang glider and i'm just looking

872
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:31,279
at him like that's no hang glider

873
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:33,760
well it was a perfect v people out it

874
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:35,360
was a stealth or something it was no

875
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:36,960
stealth i know what a stuff looks like

876
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:39,600
it is it does have a triangle shape to

877
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:41,279
it but it has a middle this thing was

878
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:42,880
just two wings

879
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:45,440
into a point it was a v v that's all it

880
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:46,240
was

881
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:48,240
nothing in the center for a cockpit it

882
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:49,600
was just two wings

883
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:51,519
that were in a v-shape and as it flew

884
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:53,760
over ryan it blocked out i could see the

885
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:54,880
outline of it

886
00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:57,200
like make out a perfect outline and i

887
00:33:02,789 --> 00:32:59,440
could tell it was darker than the sky

888
00:33:03,909 --> 00:33:02,799
whatever was solid it was blocking out

889
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:03,919
the stars and the stars were

890
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:05,519
disappearing and reappearing as it flew

891
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:06,880
over me

892
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:09,200
and it didn't make a sound didn't have a

893
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:10,320
light nothing

894
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:13,600
and i just thought what the

895
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:16,799
heck is that and and as it passed over

896
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:19,360
passed over this tree in the driveway

897
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:20,720
and i lost sight of it and i

898
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:22,240
immediately ran out of the road and

899
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:23,600
there was nothing there i couldn't see

900
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:24,159
nothing

901
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:28,720
was the direction was going it was going

902
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:30,000
south

903
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:32,799
toward vegas yep and it was going pretty

904
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:33,200
quick

905
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:36,080
it last probably 10 seconds all together

906
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:37,760
maybe a little less but it just happened

907
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:39,120
so quick and

908
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:40,399
it didn't make a noise and i think

909
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:43,440
that's what disturbed me the most

910
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:46,559
but it had no lights no no

911
00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:50,080
sound no nothing in it it just seemed

912
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:53,039
like however by real fast it was you

913
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,080
know it

914
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,919
and as big as it was it should have made

915
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:57,200
a noise i didn't hear a

916
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:00,960
slight hum i didn't hear nothing so

917
00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:04,320
i went out for like two weeks

918
00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:07,840
same bat time same bat channel and i sat

919
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:08,240
there

920
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:09,839
night after night i've never seen it

921
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:12,800
again it never came and then

922
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:15,119
months after month year goes by two

923
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,879
years go by three years go by

924
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,800
and i've moved around the corner i live

925
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:21,119
in the same on the same block i've just

926
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,399
moved around the corner

927
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,320
i've told my story and my close friends

928
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:25,839
know my story and

929
00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:28,960
they say they believe me and i don't

930
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:30,399
know if they say that just make me feel

931
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:32,800
good or what but a lot of people

932
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:36,240
well anyways we're sitting there and

933
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:37,599
i'm watching this guy ever since that

934
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:39,760
first vic and i always watch this guy i

935
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:40,800
don't care where i'm at i'm always

936
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,879
looking up this guy from wherever i'm at

937
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:44,879
and i'll watch i'll i'll catch it

938
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:46,879
because i'm always watching

939
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,560
if i'm outside i'm watching well

940
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:53,040
we're sitting there and i can see she's

941
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:54,240
sitting right next to me and she's

942
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:56,320
i can see the glow over her phone and

943
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:57,440
select my face and

944
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:59,440
so she's looking down on her phone i see

945
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:00,960
this v

946
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,800
well this time it's a lot smaller and it

947
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:04,400
looks like it's far off and it's not as

948
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:05,680
dark outside

949
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,160
i can't see the stars it's not bright

950
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:10,160
outside but it's not dark either it's in

951
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,320
between

952
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:15,359
well this v happens to be white

953
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:18,560
it looks like a v-shaped cloud ryan and

954
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,680
it flies it flys off too and but it's

955
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:23,520
flying over utah lake more

956
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:25,760
it's over by utah lake and it gets over

957
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:26,960
by

958
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,960
probably sandy beach making beach over

959
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:30,400
by west mountain

960
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,000
and it it banks and goes to the west

961
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:36,800
out towards the dugway area and i and i

962
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:38,000
elbow and i'm like look

963
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:39,359
do you see it you see it and she's like

964
00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:41,359
yeah i see her and i didn't leave her

965
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:42,839
i don't think she thought well i look

966
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,560
down at my phone

967
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:46,320
and as soon as i got my phone she's all

968
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:47,760
blowing me back look at that

969
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:50,240
and a second one flies by ryan and it's

970
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,079
it looks the same exact as the first one

971
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:53,760
i don't know if maybe it did a circle i

972
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:54,640
don't know

973
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:56,720
but the first one banked to the right

974
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:58,000
went left and i didn't

975
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:01,359
and it was just gone and another one i

976
00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:02,400
don't know if there were two of them or

977
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:03,680
one of them and it just did a big

978
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,680
giant circle real quick i don't know but

979
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:07,359
it flew in the same

980
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:09,040
it was in the they would hit each other

981
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:11,119
if they were at the same time right

982
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,920
through the same altitude it wasn't the

983
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:15,520
same and banked about the same place and

984
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:16,480
went the same way

985
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:18,720
on the same speed everything amazing and

986
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:20,560
i know she's seen that one i've seen

987
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:23,599
and i got this feeling that it was quote

988
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:27,200
like cloud i think they have technology

989
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:29,040
whether it's ours or those i don't know

990
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,240
but they can

991
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,400
make it look like a cloud yeah they look

992
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:34,800
like a cloud and there were two of them

993
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:38,000
amazing and spring rolls so i've seen

994
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:40,480
three v's

995
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:43,839
i've years ago by i'm with a

996
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:46,800
new woman my who i end up marrying and

997
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:48,560
loves with all my heart

998
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:52,240
well i we're sitting in our backyard

999
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:52,880
smoking

1000
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:56,079
same scenario we're in spanish fork now

1001
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:59,599
and we are living in our own place not

1002
00:37:01,430 --> 00:37:00,640
staying under friends anymore or

1003
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:01,440
whatever

1004
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:07,589
i'll never forget the day when it

1005
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,720
happened because

1006
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,480
the night it happened was the same night

1007
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:12,720
this guy

1008
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:15,040
went down to the spanish ford airport

1009
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,400
got in his boss's

1010
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:18,400
airplane cessna or whatever and he flew

1011
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:20,480
it down the pace and i believe it was

1012
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,440
and

1013
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:23,520
crashed into his house trying to kill

1014
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:25,760
his wife yeah the news the next morning

1015
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:28,079
i remember that what night what like the

1016
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:29,599
date this happened

1017
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:32,240
i didn't keep track of the dates or

1018
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:32,800
really

1019
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,480
all i could tell you when i seen those

1020
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:37,040
other views exactly what day it was

1021
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,480
well i remember we're stepping back

1022
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:39,920
there and i have no idea this guy

1023
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:40,800
crashed playing

1024
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:44,240
that earlier that night or even later

1025
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:44,880
that night

1026
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:47,440
i don't know when if when mike when

1027
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:49,280
we've seen this craft if it was before

1028
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:50,079
after i just know

1029
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:51,839
that the next morning that was on that's

1030
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:54,160
why i know the date of the

1031
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:56,240
our experience well this one the vs i'll

1032
00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:57,599
give you credit maybe they were

1033
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:01,520
bolt and gears and it was man-made

1034
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:03,680
we have some technology i'll give you

1035
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:05,599
maybe maybe those views

1036
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:08,079
are ours with technology we don't that

1037
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:08,960
we don't know about

1038
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:12,000
yeah uh

1039
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:13,280
i don't know because they're so big

1040
00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:15,280
they're so quiet i don't think they were

1041
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,359
i'm not saying they i i think they were

1042
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:19,280
some they were

1043
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:23,200
of another species

1044
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:24,880
there's a lot of delta but i think they

1045
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:26,560
were well yeah

1046
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:29,839
anyway this thing comes at us

1047
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:33,280
in its oval shape it's blue it's

1048
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:37,280
like a translucent blue you know

1049
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:39,119
i felt like you could see into it i

1050
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:40,320
couldn't really tell

1051
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:43,200
and it was a it was maybe six seconds of

1052
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:43,520
of

1053
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:45,920
seeing it but this thing flew straight

1054
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:47,680
out as it was coming north

1055
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:52,480
was a oval shape looking blue glowing

1056
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:55,440
quiet no not making a noise orb it was

1057
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:56,720
orb but it was

1058
00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:00,000
oval shaped blue plasma looking

1059
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:02,000
thing but i can't i can't even describe

1060
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:04,000
it really ryan it's hard to explain

1061
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:07,119
unreal but it's flying at us the flu

1062
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:08,880
flies right ass i'm seeing it and i uh

1063
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:10,320
well my wife i'm like look because i've

1064
00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:11,520
told her my stories and

1065
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:14,240
yeah i believe i believe it but she

1066
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:15,440
believes me now

1067
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:19,119
well she looks up and i can see her

1068
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:20,480
looking up out of the corner of my eye

1069
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:21,839
and as soon as she looks up and

1070
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,280
sees it this thing stops on a dime and

1071
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:27,680
goes east takes a right-hand turn right

1072
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:28,800
angle turn like

1073
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:31,440
automatic phone phone and it was gone

1074
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:32,800
and i looked there i said nah do you

1075
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:34,079
believe me

1076
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,599
so it was kind of cool to have witnesses

1077
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:37,520
for some of these but

1078
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:40,240
i tell you what that thing made me lose

1079
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:41,440
a lot of sleep

1080
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:44,560
and i know it wasn't man-made maybe the

1081
00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:45,760
bees could have been

1082
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:49,359
i doubt it but we cannot make a blue

1083
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,560
plasma looking

1084
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:52,880
it looks it's like an energy ball or

1085
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:53,599
something

1086
00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:56,720
but it's it's being it's intelligently

1087
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:58,240
being

1088
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:01,280
operated maybe i kind of

1089
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,839
have a theory maybe it's it's a life

1090
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,520
form it is a life form

1091
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,680
maybe it's not a ship maybe it's a life

1092
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:09,280
form i don't know yet

1093
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:12,400
but i hope one day i all know

1094
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:14,880
but that that the views are cool all the

1095
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:16,000
lights i've seen out

1096
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,319
i skin walk around and all the

1097
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:20,319
unexplained stuff out there that i've

1098
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:21,200
seen

1099
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:23,520
that blue being that close to that blue

1100
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:25,520
orb oval orb

1101
00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:29,920
was amazing and i i want to see it again

1102
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:31,839
so cool man so i'm hoping to see it out

1103
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:33,359
of ranch maybe that's why i go out there

1104
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:33,760
because

1105
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:36,160
i don't get disappointed out there so

1106
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:36,880
cool

1107
00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:40,000
sharing all these experiences and i'm

1108
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:41,040
with you i think they're

1109
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,200
there there's a percentage of them that

1110
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:45,599
there is a biological aspect to some of

1111
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:46,640
these lights

1112
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,480
but thanks so much for sharing all these

1113
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:50,079
stories rick i hope to have you back

1114
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,000
soon i know that we can't go on forever

1115
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:54,720
but thanks for coming on with us and um

1116
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:55,760
i hope to uh

1117
00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:58,880
talk to you soon and until next time um

1118
00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:00,640
take care out there say hi to amanda and

1119
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:02,240
i hope to see you guys up in the

1120
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:05,280
magical area soon

1121
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:07,040
we will we'll definitely see you out

1122
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:08,800
there we'll have to get together brother

1123
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:19,920
thank you you better

1124
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:30,550
come blast off in my time machine third

1125
00:42:14,950 --> 00:41:46,470
machine blowing on that light green